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Defining Moments with Larry Nicks - 8/25/2022

Larry Nicks

Updated: Oct 11, 2022



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mississippi

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my well hello everyone and welcome again to another edition of defining moments i'm your host larry nix and i am so

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delighted that you've joined us today i appreciate you i know that you have choices

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and i know that there are other things that commands your attention but for the fact that you land here every thursday

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for 60 minutes i'm delighted and i'm grateful and i'm humbled for that i this

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is not a narcissistic statement i say all the time uh but i am humbled the fact that we

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have listeners and viewers from uh from parts of the country from pennsylvania to atlanta to new orleans

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to memphis to uh chicago uh north mississippi all parts of

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mississippi i am grateful for you uh this program is not about me it's not

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about building my resume it's not about talking how great larry is but it's about talking it is about building god's

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kingdom kingdom and talking about how great god is uh with those hands

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and those ambassadors that he has placed in this sphere of of place called the

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earth and time so i am grateful that you joined us i i know you're gonna be

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blessed today uh by my guest uh i've only known her for a short

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period of time but is it is one of those instantaneous kinds of relationships

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those friendships we were introduced uh by a mutual friend calls

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and we just hit it off and we had a conversation and soon after i left uh

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her her establishment and we'll talk about that bonnie sue's coffee shop then the lord

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convicted me and he said i want her on your program and i've shared with you from the

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infancy of this program i said yeah lord i will do this program if you allow me

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to have my top ten well i've gone through my top ten uh and also it has to be about

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having people on the program that will glorify you that will edify the body of christ and

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that will inspire that will encourage and that will challenge people not

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necessarily based on the fact that they've come out of the storm of life but then but they could very well be

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inside the storm and uh that they're real and they're transparent and they love you enough

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lord that they're willing to share their journey i have such a person with me today but before i get to

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the formal introduction of her uh latasha uh perkins let me at least

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acknowledge those that have been affected by this incredible rainstorm for those that are

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in the southern parts of the united states whether it is in texas in louisiana

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in mississippi in georgia in alabama certain parts of florida want to let you

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know that we're very sensitive to what you're going through uh and our prayers are certainly with

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you you may say but you don't know me larry you're right i may not know you but the lord knows you and he cares and

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he honors the prayers of those that are praying for you so know that um we hope

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for your work best we pray for your best and we know god is faithful in all things i sent out a

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blast the other day as i always do and it says what do you do when you've done

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all that you know how to do and it seems that the walls are falling

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the grounds are crumbling around what do you do that was kind of a rhetorical question

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a rhetorical question is a statement not necessarily open-ended for a response but what do you do

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and today hopefully you will be encouraged i know you will be encouraged to do two

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things to put in the work because faith without works is dead

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number two that you'll stand in faith not in your strength but you will stand

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in the confidence of the lord and number two as you stand that you'll

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trust god all right i will say this

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oftentimes when we go through life experiences

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um that we think that god is mad at us i had a conversation earlier with my

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social media manager bernard moore man i put your whole name up last year

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that god is mad at us and he simply says that if we go through it because god is trying to develop us

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god is not angry at us he's not like a wizard of us sitting behind this big curtain

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waiting to hit us and clobber us but he's he's uh he's molding us he's

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developing us because he's interested in promoting us the person that i have on my program

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today uh latasha lindsay she knows just a little about that

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and i welcome her to share her testimony i know it's going to be a blessing to

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you i know you've gone through hardships trials tribulations we all have it is an illusion it is navity they think that

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christianity is walking apart you've got to go through but there's a purpose of it going through

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life caution

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when i grow my beard this fall and you see me then you'll say thank you uncle larry oh thank you grandpa laird you

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know but for now it's just fair uh latosha uh perkins she is the

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proprietor of uh lindsay what did i say perfect oh lord i hope i don't do that i

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was thinking about john that's okay that's all right well latasha lindsay she's a provider of bonnie sue's coffee

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shop i've had the pledge of going in a couple times and and uh supporting it

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uh and the coffee shop is in pearl mississippi so if if you live in detroit and you listen

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to this program you probably won't be able to go around the corner and get into your coffee but it may be that god

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is going to open up the door for you for you do some kind of e-commerce yes god is so big and he's already done

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so many great things so it won't surprise me what he's willing and able to do let's

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let's let's start where you are just just briefly and then i want to move back all right i want to go back into

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the past um the times that i've spoken with you and it is a for-profit establishment

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and it's okay i've said many times god don't mind you having stuff he just don't want stuff having you but you look

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at your bonnie sue's uh coffee shop as a ministry number one i want to ask the

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question for the listening and viewing audience how did you come up with that name

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and why are you liking it more of a for-profit ministry to do good in the community to

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a whole question okay bonnie sues bonnie sue's is the name of two wonderful women um

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in my life that have been in my life one was my mother bonnie sue

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is my was my husband's mother um they are both deceased and the coffee

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brewed as strong as our foundation just simply came from them um women that were

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strong in their faith um head uh of their families teaching their

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children strong beliefs in how to love the lord um

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i didn't get a chance to know my husband's mother's suit but to hear him talk of his mother

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see what she raised in a son my husband is a wonderful man and her

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daughters i feel like that i knew her my mother um

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who died in 2010 um had two children and we were um

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you know the greatest part of her life she often told my brother and i my brother billy that you know

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you can do anything whether you're sitting with king's presidents she made sure we understood

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that we could do anything in the world and that we were worthy and so

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when my husband uh asked me what it is that i wanted to do

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uh because i was in a crossroads in my life and i said open a coffee shop and he said well

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let's figure out a name and i wanted to honor my mother and his mother and that's where

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bonnie sue's coffee ruled as strong as our foundation came from because they

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led us here and so when people pass by and they walk into your establishment it is it is a wonderful

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establishment when you walk in something is going on when i when i walked in

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you know and subsequently walked in it doesn't feel like an institutional go get coffee

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there's something special about ladies and gentlemen i'm telling you if you enjoy coffee and you need a

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therapeutic kind of atmosphere bonnie sues and the address is 422 north

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vietnamese so for those of you that are in the metropolitan area if you enjoy coffee if

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you enjoy a great atmosphere bonnie shoes coffee shop in pearl mississippi is the place to come but when i walk

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into that place every time i walk into the place i feel a sense of peace i feel

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it as if it's a refuge why because it is um

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i i tell people when you come in there the coffee part could have been anything

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it is a ministry it is a place that god commissioned my husband and i calvin to

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go and spread uh his word and it's helping us to support our ministry

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world of worship ministries and our non-profit good better best you know when when and we didn't know

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uh early on and when i was a young girl i didn't know that this was going to be but it was a

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purpose in my life to spread the gospel and this is one way

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for me to do it when people take a look at you they see your life and oftentimes those are

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presuppositions that you've always had this way oh you're a rose bush your journey has

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been full of forms in his lives and i want to talk about that on the other side ladies and gentlemen stay tuned

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with my very special guest natasha lindsay yes so they take a look at it and thank you

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for joining us we appreciate that i believe that you're gonna be encouraged today let's just let's just keep the flow going they look at you

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very beautiful a wonderful wonderful establishment have an incredible husband have an incredible

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have incredible children and so what does she know about briars and

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thorns being on the bush so they look at you now so let's go

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way back and let's start at the beginning let's talk about your journey yes

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you know people make that mistake not just with myself but with other people about your journey um

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you know most people my family don't know certain things about me but i

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it was hard i came from um two teenage parents uh a 16 year old and an 18 year old and

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uh just wanting to love each other and they had a beautiful girl a baby girl and my mama used to tell me

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you saved me you slammed me and i didn't know what she meant

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but she came from a young mother and uh some trials and

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tribulations and and it was just it's hard to put in there yes because i think

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i'm malicious yes sir you said you you you're the uh child of teenage parents

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teenage man they're initially not married when they

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became pregnant with me and the reason why i say it and i bring that up and i pull that out it's because

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there are those that have made mistakes and they feel unworthy

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they feel bastardized they feel like they've been ostracized and ridiculed

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and because of that decision that they made that they are of no use

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but your mom told you that i was good enough and that i saved her and

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then i was beautiful and she always made that point you are good and you're going to do

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something great and so so for those who

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have made marginalized decisions for those that have made

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uh thank you josh because i'm about to get i'm about to i'm about to throw them up and i know you hear it coming man but

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those that and i know you're trying to get it out hold on hold on

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for those that for those that feel unworthy all right you know i'm gonna take up the next 30

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seconds all right because i know your answer catch josh is going to cut me off josh is saying 20.

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for those people that feel unworthy so unworthy that they've been ostracized even by the church church

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and they feel so unworthy and they feel like giving up what do you do

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hold on thank you josh

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i have such an incredible producer because he knows when this thing's about to heat up and he

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boy he i work every second out of him and my social media director

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the question was asked so for those who feel unworthy because

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they made such a decision at an early age and they can no longer be used by god

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and in some instances the church is telling them

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you aren't worried you go to the back seat you cannot be used by god

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and the church did do that to my mom and there was a show

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i'm okay i'm gonna guide you through it i got you i know you

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so for those that are listening and watching they're smiling

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they feel all made up but on the inside they're they're hurt

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and they've been damaged by the church they've been damaged by the people that call themselves christians

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how do you encourage them today i encourage you by simply

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getting closer to god and listening to what he says you are um

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and getting around not getting close to because you said something getting close to god not and not necessarily

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the building called church no the the building is just that it's just a building but uh getting to the people

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that uh have the church inside of them those people that love the lord and know what the lord truly is about because it

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doesn't matter about your denomination or what church you go to whether it be a big church or a small church

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but teaching the love of god and for my mom she was she was hurt by

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the church and but you know when i started to grow and make mistakes

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the church uh my pastor pastor earl ward he received me and he asked me and when

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i failed because i had i too have had situations in which i thought i was not worthy but when

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he told me i have uh no heaven or hell to put you in you have asked god for forgiveness

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now let's take that situation and show what god can do from and that's just what i did and god had

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taken several instances in my life uh whether i see i saw them as failures

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but god was able to use those situations to turn them in something great and that's part of how bonnie sues with

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birth and through that uh i've been able to share with others

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people come into bonnie's shoes with some heartbreaks so many strengths and i don't

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i don't know how god allows me to give uh them a word from him uh and

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i'm not a pastor my husband is the pastor but i i have a relationship with the lord and i have had a journey

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that that journey has caused me to be able to grow and to be able to share my story and i

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believe that through my trials and tribulations and hurts uh uh

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and and things that i've been blessed with that god too can show you how to make it so you're suggesting that you

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will not allow our downfalls which are actually set ups

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and the pains of our past to define us as if they're our destination

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as opposed to pruning tools as pruning tools you know i was just telling my daughter this morning you

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know when we ask god uh for things and we pray for things god is so wise and he

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is so good he can do anything those things that we think so easily

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beside us or causes us to stumble those things and we will only put god in

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the middle of it they are just stepping tools to where he's trying to position well listen look we're talking

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isn't that kind of naive isn't that kind of superficial to say well i'll just turn it all over to god you know it's

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been kind of naive because i've gone to him before and he just didn't he didn't i've gone to him before

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and i've asked him from and i'm not not asking you to respond to this in a very deep theological manner but through but

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through your own personal experience through my own personal experience everything is timing with the lord and

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his time is not my time uh but i do know that he's you know proven himself and

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showing himself to me time and time again and this too will i trust him all right okay so now let's go back even

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deeper because walking with the lord and a part of of being in this space

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called christian dome it it it's not always comfortable all right

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um i i mean there's you you go through losses you go through pain

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you go through disappointment you go through being alienated people think you're crazy uh

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it's about trusting the lord you know for my husband and i we we have had some losses we've lost some uh people along

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the way we've lost a lot of money along the way we've lost uh what we thought

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was a good opportunity you know we we thought it was a loss

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but i i've seen god take nothing we had nothing um

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and to start this and it was all him that's how we knew uh this was a god thing so hold on put a

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comment there again so there's some folk that have said i don't have anything i have something i have this baby inside

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of me and and i i just i'm about to go crazy

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but but i don't have a networking uh apparatus i don't have any money i don't know i i

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just saw how am i supposed to get the same done you know you start praying you start

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asking the lord to show you direct your path direct you to the right people god

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will see the right people but what oftentimes we sit in and we we allow fear to uh whatever our

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situation is or whether it's lack of finances a pregnancy a single mom with a

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pregnancy uh don't have a home or kicked out of your home we allow those

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situations to post change our posture and countenance in what we know uh

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about the lord but i dare you to say lord through this i'm going to trust you

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that is what i have learned throughout my life tries and tribulations lord i'm gonna trust you

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even though i have this baby and i don't have no place to go i'm a single mom i'm not i'm not married

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but i'm going to have this baby i don't have a job i lost my job i don't have the funds i need to uh start this

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business law but i know you're calling me to start this business there are steps uh tools and and people set uh in

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place that god has set in place to help us and i have found that that he sends those people in those

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situations he will make it happen so let me be the eighth angel advocate all right i i just

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advise i'm not gonna advocate for the devil so i'm not the devil that i have i'm the angel that so let's say

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that i've tried a business and the business didn't work i tried and did what i thought was the right thing

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to do and it didn't work should i just give up yes and and i'm and i'm speaking more specifically i'm coming down your

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alley okay you should not give up you know when uh when the the idea

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of bunny sues was birth to me i was 18 years old i was still in high school

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of course i was a student i didn't have any money but the idea was there so i went on into

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the another field of counseling so god will use opportunities situations

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even if let me say this even if uh uh you tried

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a business and it didn't work it failed uh doesn't mean that it's a failure it

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means that uh that time it didn't work um

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maybe you didn't have uh the right resources maybe in my case it was a long location uh you

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know i had people in this coffee business that that are mentors to me

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that were telling me things but me i wanted to do it this way

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when i should have heeded and listened uh to the wisdom

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that god had already given other people so god will put people in your place

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to your path to show you how to do but sometimes we don't

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um we want to go the easier route i don't want to go the direction that god is trying to send

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us i've said many times i said god answers three ways yes no way and the weight doesn't mean no no it

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just simply means not now or i need to get but we don't know how to wait and that is what my husband and i have had

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to learn to do waiting uh is not a bad thing in waiting

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you're learning things you're waiting doesn't mean rejection it does not mean it doesn't mean that god has rejected it

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doesn't mean that god has rejected you and what's inside of you it means that he need well you just said he's prepping

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you and there are things that you need to be doing in the way you know

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be careful moving in front of god be careful uh uh speaking and doing things that he

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has not purposed you to do um but we have learned through bonnie sues and

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it's been a journey and it has been hard uh financially it's been hard um

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but he has given uh and i say my husband he's giving him the strength to continue

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to provide and work and we have wonderful friends you know that are

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around us that support us uh my friend i have a very dear friend

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uh diane pendleton that supports uh bonnie sues

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not just with her hey you're doing a good job of congratulations but she helps us and

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supports us through her resources financial resources and i'm thankful for that uh and god sends people in your

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life to help you okay and we have to receive it ladies and gentlemen i'm my beer special guest um the ambassador for

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christ latasha lindsay bonnie stews coffee shop is online program today stay tuned we'll be right

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back there are those that would say have you

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lost your military number one because you're in a very competitive industry

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all right then you have all of these general um franchise brands um that are mega

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million dollar brands and and yet you're a boutique

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coffee shop yeah that they're they're those they're those that

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that that when they hear that we'll say you're right i just probably need to cash into town and give up on my dreams

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well if it was just about coffee then uh i might

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natasha might would agree with you but it's not just about coffee it's about

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uh god himself and it's about the kingdom this is my uh

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uh journey that god has given me and my husband and my my entire

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family my five children included to share the gospel with people

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in different ways everybody don't go to a church house or don't have a church uh

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everybody uh don't go uh to various places to hear about god

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but they can come inside of body suits and feel the presence of god and if they feel like sharing there are people there

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to share with them uh that uh share their heart people share their heart and all i'm here to do

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is to uh allow you to experience the peace and love of god that that

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doesn't have uh understanding that you might know so once one should not assume

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that because uh there are more uh there are more businesses like yours

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that god does not have a pit and a place in space for you right he

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stay tuned ladies and gentlemen welcome back to defending bums i'm with

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my very special guest natasha lindsay lindsay she uh lindsay i was being

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french come italian uh she is uh

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with her husband calvin of dude's coffee shop not just a coffee shop but it's a

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ministry and so i asked the question coming out of the commercial break one should not ever assume

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that what god has put inside of you even though you made with your natural eyes see other

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establishments you should assume that god has not created something very special inside

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how to do it because there's a need for that well and it could like anything if god uh

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call you to it then he will uh make room for you in in that you know

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there are several businesses uh uh found that's either doing coffee or doing some

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of the things that i'm doing but i you know they're a competition there are natural competitions because it is a

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for-profit business um uh but i'm just trying to simply be obedient

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and and in that obedience uh god knows what we have need of he knows we need uh

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funding to make keep doors open to uh uh

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buy supplies and all those necessary things that you need to run a business but he also

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uh has given me um a place to share uh more about him to

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increase the kingdom and that's that's simply what is for me that's what it's about how important how

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important are the qualities of patience and endurance because as david

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god called david when he was a teenager but he didn't place him into the position as king

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until much later on it came to you that latasha would be the owner of a coffee

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shop at 18 years old from that time of inception to the reality of the

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opening of the door how long we what that was 2017

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uh so what 30 40

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yeah 45 but it never it never it never left your heart it never left my heart

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because i i love people and and

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have you ever asked why coffee shop did you put that in my inside of me yeah i

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have does it make sense it does now explain it it does now then i

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you know i love people and i love uh sharing with people and sharing my heart

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with people but then it was just simply to create a space where people can come and share with one

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another um i thought that was beautiful but as i have journeyed on and lived in

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life and made decisions good and bad and grown from them i now

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uh and worked in the counseling field and mental health field i now realize

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that it's much greater and as my faith has grown it is simply to share the gospel to

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share who he is then he died that he loves you that that you too can be great

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that you don't have to uh uh feel downtrodden that you don't have

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to uh fall and stay down that you can be you can lift you can rise from your

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circumstances you know in this community that's why we that's part of why we uh

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establish the nonprofit good the best because we want to uh show people

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that you can live your best life and you don't have to wait to get that a lot of people say what you died you have no you

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can do it right now but there are some things that we have to change uh and grow from and be delivered and

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free from and so now i realize that it's simply to teach

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people to love abrupt christ how to grow and how to get up because

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i've fallen i've had a lot of mistakes and

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it was very painful and if i talk about it today it still uh

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makes me cry for that natasha then that young person then that young woman then

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um but what i what she didn't know is that she's strong and that she can persevere and that god

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will put people in your place uh my husband being one i thank god for him uh

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he is my pastor he teaches me uh the goodness of the lord he teaches me how

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to forgive through the through the scripture and i've grown from that and i just i want to share that with

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other people and god have just made room for that for us to be able to do that

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with bonnie sues and with the ministries that we planted uh word of worship and i

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just thank him for that it's really not about natasha lindsay and bonnie sues is not about uh pastor lindsay and word of

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worship uh good better best is really about uh sharing uh the love of christ

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and and uh so so were you were you this in love with the lord

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uh and so the lord and the lord had to take you through seasons and experiences in order for you

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to have this this kind of passion for well i've always been in church okay

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i've always been in the church in the church i've been in the building

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thank you okay i've been in the building uh my mom and dad made sure of that but

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it was surfaced it was on the surface but as i have grown my faith has grown my

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relationship has grown uh with jesus christ

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then that's where my strength came from and it is not about uh

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a denomination you know i grew up a specific denomination but when god delivered me from

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all of that and in these traditions of things he's not about that he cares about your

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heart my social just text me and she's listening to us from another city and she said sometimes when the lord delays

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your journey it is for your own good oh yes it's for your good because had he

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given me body suits back then i wasn't in a place in him to be able to

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stand strong to be able to handle the the rejection the closing of uh bonnie

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sue's empire in mississippi i wouldn't have been able to uh come back from that i would have given up i would have quit

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but because he denied it and didn't give me all the desires delayed yes not

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denied it he delayed it and and i would encourage young women me and children teenagers oh

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whoever you are uh to just stay on the lower side stay connected to him

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it is painful it hurts i'm worn out i'm tired

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people are laughing at me why don't you give up i i i wonder

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sometimes has god gone silent on me so what do i do

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one of the things that you have to do and and this is very this was vital to

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me and a person told me one time um when i was i had fallen

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and this was not a good time in my life that was the opportunity that i was at

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my closest with the lord and all i needed to do was wait a minute that's not the way that

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that sounded like a knife tomorrow when you were deepest

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in your pain now i'm gonna give you my handshake i want my painter

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when you're at your lowest all you have to do everyone that's listening

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is lord say lord i need your help i need your strength i need you to help me because i can't go

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further he is such a god he is so just

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that he would do just that and during that time where i was my most

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uh vulnerable and in pain he did just that and from that point on

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he has taught me he has uh helped me to develop

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and gave me strength that i needed to be able to persevere in this day in this

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time i sense um i'm not one of these hocus pocus guys but i said someone crying

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right now a lady crying because she feels ostracized and she feels like

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and actually you're having your breakthrough right now it doesn't look like it

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because you're in so much pain i'm gonna ask you latasha will you just pray for this person yes

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damn the father we thank you right now the lord and we we thank you for this moment we thank you for

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this person we thank you lord and we ask you to touch them come into the place into the space in

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which where they are the lord and help them and let them be able to feel your

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presence let them understand that you are there the lord and that you care about whatever they may be going through

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whatever may be present on their heart the lord that you you are a god that is faithful

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and you will deliver in due season you will bring them out the lord if only they would just trust and give all their

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their pains and all their cares until you deliver all the anxiety all the

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worry all the things that the naysayers are saying to the lord if they would just trust you you know we thank you for

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your love and we thank you for your grace we thank you for your son jesus christ the lord he had painted the lord

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and he showed us how to do it and we thank you lord and we trust and believe in your your grace

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and your power in jesus name amen jesus says in john 10 10 the thief comes

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not but for the steal killed and destroyed but i come

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that you

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explain that ministry what is the what is the essence of that ministry so good

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better best is is a non-profit that we have been trying to get off the ground we still have to have a little work

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um we did the paperwork and everything for the non-profit part of it but it birthed

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out of the closing of funny suits uh body series number one bunny sue's

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number one environment so when when we closed in byram

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we started that non-profit and it's basically uh something that i tell my children

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uh good better best never stop until you're better is your best no matter

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what it is keep striving keep pushing and those in

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good better beds we want to focus on the spiritual financial

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education and uh business uh some type of a business

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building showing people how uh if they want to step out

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on faith of a business that god burst into them how to do that and see we

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started uh not knowing anything and not that we're

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perfect in it but we're just regular people that have learned along the way

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and just want to share uh some of the the wealth of knowledge that we've been able to

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to obtain so if people would like to support that ministry how how can they support their ministry first how you can

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support right now is just by contacting me uh uh you can send me a message natasha

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lindsay on messenger you can also uh send a message on bonnie sue's website

40:54

okay bodysuits v-o-n-e-n-i-e-s-u-e-s yahoo

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calm and contact us through that way and we hope we can start a dialogue and see how

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you can whether they support us through finances or

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some encouragement that that so again that that contact information is d-o-n-n-i-e-s

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let's clear it up that's right that's right that's right because i want people to have access to bonnie

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and our phone number bonnie sues is 601 398 125

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you can also contact me on uh facebook as bonnie sues

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um and his it looks simple or b-o-n-n-i-e-s-u-e-s

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and also we are on instagram by underscore suits so um this is what i've had to learn no

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nobody likes going through 30 seconds you know we try to escape it any way possible

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but i have learned through my own journey that great things is necessary can come

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as a result of going through pain right um i want to talk about the

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idea of being refined i want to talk about the idea of being processed

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reality is is to know that the lord is with you always

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so when people look at you and say gosh i want to be just like you

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i just i can jump into this and let's go do you teach them the principles of

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business this is what you need to do or do you say let's sit down and talk because there

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are there are spiritual principles as well there are kingdom principles that you need to understand

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for this journey yes you know of course the business part will come to me

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that's the easier part you know because there are steps to

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obtaining a business but the spiritual side of it you know without that to me

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uh that's what it has allowed bodies to continue to maintain to grow

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uh and to be strengthened um because god is leaving this is it's not through my

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might it's not through my husband calvin's might but it's through the strength of god

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because if we look at it through the natural life we will probably be discouraged and give

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up because the reality is being pressed being chipped on

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being in the fire it's not easy no it's not it's not comfortable however you're

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saying that it's necessary it is necessary that that you have those pitfalls

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and that things are hard and you learn how to not lean on yourself but to lean on god

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that's where you're growing through that uh so when people talk about oh this was easy that you'd

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be wary of that you kind of stay away from that but because this has been such a journey

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uh for us been so hard for us uh emotionally financially uh our kids not

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only have we had to uh go through but our children have had to go through um but is that a

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bad thing it's not a bad thing they have learned because i think sometimes my parents i think sometimes parents me

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included i think we we try to uh to an overkill degree to isolate

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our children from going through pain without understanding pain is part of

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the process of maturity it didn't feel good you don't necessarily want to go through

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it again but it's a part of it i i was in the delivery room

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all three times with my wife when she was birthing our children and i saw the excruciating pain on her face to go

45:19

through the birthing process all right i was there holding her hand i still have cramps in my hand from her

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head all right but as soon as our babies were

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delivered that pain turned into joy

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right and it's a process and if anything else i want to let you know that

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storms they do come they will come they do not guarantee yeah but they don't last they don't last

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and be confident that jesus says i'll never leave you don't forsake you he's in the storm with

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you that's correct you know uh mr larry or larry of yesterday that storm that came through

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uh pearl mississippi and you know in mississippi uh bierdeman was flooded

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um the street that you're looking for is located on the strategic and water came in most of the businesses

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along that way they were flooded and i was looking out my husband said this is people's lives

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and we were just standing out looking at everyone just kind of looking at all the water going in there

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but one of the things that that i said to my husband i said you know it's hard

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and it is our livelihood and it's tough you know but at least i wanted to take something

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positive i have learned in my older age and in my maturity that you you got to look at things a

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little different but at least now for us because we've only been in there for a short period of time

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now we see what water can do you know to this building and it just showed us some

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areas of weakness that we needed to strengthen um our life is like that that's good when

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we're going through trials and tribulations and things that are tough it's not to break you god god's not

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gonna break his children he loves us but it will and it should show you some

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areas that you need to develop that you need to work on and god has done that for me in my life

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and i thank him for it and it has helped me to be a better wife mother

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a better child to him for the kingdom a better friend

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um and if you don't accept that challenge and look at things

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differently then you will stay sad and down and

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and depressed and i'm not saying that those things are not real but i do know

47:52

that you can get through those things because i have you know and let me give you one of my stories yesterday i was traveling out of out of the city and

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this particular road that i was traveling connected me to where i was going for at least a couple hours got

48:05

halfway down the road and the road was blocked because of the overcurrents of the wall

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um i saw people just sitting on the side of the road they looked to be

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you know what am i gonna do right and and and so uh i said man i've got to get to the

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other side but it seemed to have been like 50 yards of water on both sides

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that blocked the road and the lord said to me

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go another way i have given you experiences i have given you exposure i've given you

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previous ingenuity to other routes what i want to let you know today is

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the route you may be going may seem to be blocked with obstruction

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of people talking about you lying on you disappointing you you losing your job

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doors being closed the lord is saying for sure yeah it's blocked right

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but i have put inside of you the ingenuity

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to go another way so this the experience i've given you in

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the past you wonder why you were going this way previously now you know that while other people

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don't make them preach while other people are sitting on the side of the road because they saw that as their only

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alternative you without any anxiety just made a u-turn that's right

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another way so if this door is being blocked to you if this door has been closed if you've

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been furloughed or you've been terminated for your from your job

49:53

then just know god is not angry with you maybe he's trying to get you to go another way

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you know uh i often hear that god is angry with me no but i do know god will allow some

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things um because he is trying to get you to go another way he is trying to get you to

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listen uh he is trying to uh make sure you don't go through that door because it's this door and guess what let me say

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this and put a quick little pause that the lord loves and enjoy his relationship with

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you more than he enjoy you being successful oh yes and said it again yes

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yes the lord didn't have any problem with you having a gazillion dollars you just don't want the gazillion dollars

50:38

and we know the story of the man who built the barn and said i got so much stuff i want to build a big barn and the spirit came to him and said thy food

50:45

your soul is required to give you night you're building all this stuff solomon said bad and demanded all this summer

50:50

all its vanity you're going to be all this stuff you're going to die somebody who will value it less is going to spend it

50:57

that's right all right so the lord cares more about his relationship with you

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than you having a million dollars in the bank and ignoring him and we're so caught up uh whether you be

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in the church or outside of the church we're so caught up with stuff uh and with uh

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uh status and all that has its place but like you say if it gets in front of god

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if it becomes uh more about you and your success than it is about the kingdom

51:29

then is that about god is is this a god i think it is not

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yeah so at the age of eight you i've got put inside of your heart coffee shop

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you you understand now it's it's about ministry it's about ministry

51:46

it's about making sure or recycling making sure uh going alongside with my

51:51

husband to help other people know god so what about your children have they bought into

51:57

the bonnie sue coffee shop they have a legacy they have all five uh we have

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five children labrell lindsey uh she's married with our twin grandchildren

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to jason uh nelson i said i think i said labrador lindsay's labrador nelson

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uh joshua lewis desmond lindsay uh timothy lindsay and samuel lindsey and

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they have all from some fashion either help support encourage

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physically get their hands dirty was tearing down walls working in body suits

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whatever the case they all have bought in not just with the coffee part of it but with the ministry part of it now am

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i saying uh that they're always all all the way there no they're still on their journey so do you

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think i was on my journey so do you even expect as a parent do you expect them to take up the mental of bonnie sues or you

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understand that god may have put a very unique anointing on their life that they may not include violence oh absolutely

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um we would love for one of them

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uh or all of them of course that's natural as parents you know you want your children to to follow in your

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footsteps but i understand that just like god planted seeds into my heart and

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had a purpose and a plan for me their purpose might not include body suits but the only thing that that

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we push and that's him we don't necessarily push what we're

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doing on to them but we do push god we do push having a relationship with him

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so for those parents who are dead they're just dead set on telling their children you're gonna follow my

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footsteps how would you encourage them to maybe ease up and just seek god for counseling

53:51

right you definitely must seek god because listen sometimes we can push our children away even it could be purpose

53:58

for them uh to to carry the family business or or

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but sometimes we press too much and we don't allow the joy of it what you're trying to do to to be

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planted into their heart uh take my my 24 year old for instance you know when

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bunny sues was planted before he was away in ole miss at school so he didn't get an opportunity to do as

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much to be around as much but now he's here locally going to school and working

54:30

and he's there every saturday every saturday except for when he has to work but he says i said is this too much

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for you he says you know what mom it is the best part of my week for those that would say for those that would say you

54:45

know i run a business and i'll serve god on sundays and there's really no place with god in this business um i love the

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lord i give but this this is a for-profit organization how would you

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how would you caution me be very cautious let me tell you something all of it is god's your

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business your home your car your money right now and you know he could take it at william so

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you saw some of that yesterday right trust god in everything that you go to do put god in front of everything that

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you're going to do whether it's your business your marriage your relationships your jobs in front of your

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children but god can god god wants us to have joy here on earth as well as in

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heaven you can have that right here but you gotta put him first do you feel accomplished now that you have opened

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the second uh the second bunny shoes do you feel accomplished in that okay you know what

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i've reached my destination god i don't have anything else to do god hadn't told me that and i am a

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person that listens uh i try to listen uh to what the holy

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spirit says god hadn't told me that just like he didn't tell me before

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that bonnie sue's uh was done now i felt natasha

56:07

felt like we were done because i didn't like it when i had to close the doors the first

56:13

time i felt like i had failed and i sort of initially felt broken

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but god didn't say we were done tasha said how did how did you keep yourself

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motivated when you had to deal with the propaganda and the gossip

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yeah i told you i had so i heard so much uh but

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but more than the gossip i i want to say larry that i had support

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um embrace the support and not the gospel yeah i had so many people uh in the

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community byron was so good to me the people the customers were so good to my

56:56

family to the business of bunny zeus i'm i can't say that there was anything bad

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you know of course satan will try to get in your ear but you got to be strong enough and you got to be close to god so

57:08

that you don't listen to what the world the enemy is trying to to say to you and i want to say just

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keep your faith listen to god study a word go to those uh uh

57:23

leaders that's trying to help you on your journey so that you can get stronger and can hear what god is

57:30

trying to say and because we were able to hear uh god that's

57:35

how the second bonnie suits came to be in pearl mississippi so so how did you

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know it's time and how did you know it's time and this is the place why because

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place and time is key for natural success

57:52

but you're listening to god as well well in the whole experience it was time and and all i can tell you is that when

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you're walking in in the lord and you're you're being conscious of the things that you say and do

58:04

uh whatever that may be he will show you and indeed sort of land in our lap

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so so that's so now so now you've asked is one of those uh proverbs three five

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and six trust in the lord with all your heart lean i think you don't understand all thy ways acknowledge him and he'll direct that path if you if you seek out

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for the things of the heart of god you god will honor your honor that's right because your heart is connected to yes

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that's right and you know what i know that there is a time and a place for everything and my favorite scripture is

58:37

is surrounded by jeremiah 29 11 and that's hosting bunnies news god has a

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plan and a hope and a future for every one of us but sometimes at a point in time this is

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where you got to be right now and you know what and you know the conclusion of the scripture is i have my plan it's for you to be good

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yes it's the process you know and they but but they come but they come

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through a period of slavery they've come through a period of persecution but god says don't look at this persecution as

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your donation remember i know you're here for 70 years i know you've been there but don't give

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up don't think that you're a pain don't think that you're pruning don't think that the fiery furnace don't think that

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the lion's den don't think that that that you being chipped don't think that that is your destination i understand

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why i created you i'll say this give you the last word jesus says disciples pray after this manner

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thy kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven you're right i think some of us are so busy trying to

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live right so that we can die and enjoy god in heaven that we forgot that jesus

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want us to enjoy the kingdom on earth so what would you say

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trust in the lord with all your heart have faith in the lord don't give up listen and hear what heaven has to say

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to you and and my my main thing is i tell our church is no

1:00:06

matter what it looks like no matter what it feels like you still trust in the lord if people

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would like to support your ministry again how can they they can contact us by contacting me by coming to bonnie

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sue's supporting our coffee shop your address again is 422 north vietnam pearl

1:00:24

mississippi and you can contact us on with an email at bonniesoues yahoo.com

1:00:30

it is a wonderful place it is an inviting place it is therapeutic place when you go there the coffee is the

1:00:37

least of what you will want you will enjoy it as you enjoy the essence of the

1:00:42

lord tasha lindsay uh she's the proprietor of bonnie sue's coffee shop along with her husband thank

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you for being guested on our program today i can tell you'll be back the worst teddy penny grass says in the song wake

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up the world won't be a better place

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